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| Cobalt |
Posted - 08/24/2002 : 19:05:51
http://http.dvlabs.com/gnn/qt/gnn/asx/copwatch_bb.asx
Discuss
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| Calipso |
Posted - 09/08/2002 : 01:13:01
In canada the only people that have guns are the cops hunters and the hells angels... its the truth
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| Mallak |
Posted - 09/07/2002 : 04:04:51
My 2 cents.
Make it hard to get guns. Maybe they will stop. Cause we all know it's hard to get drugs, and that stopped.
They want to make it difficult to buy guns from the people who are supposed to sell guns, heck, they made it impossible to buy drugs from the people who offer drugs. There is a place you can go to buy a gun. There is no place to go to buy crack. I don't forsee either stopping.
Just thinkin on the keys.
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| Krusty |
Posted - 08/27/2002 : 14:59:43
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And you're going to respond with "They will get guns anyways", well, its like carding for cigs, kids may get them anyway, but it will make it harder for them, and they may just give up on it.
Sure, background checks and 72 hour waiting periods are wonderful. I completely agree that that should be in place....and I wish they would pretty much stop there. Did you know it's illegal in CA to own a gun with a grip that extends below the action of the weapon? This is called a pistol grip. It's a cosmetic thing that looks kinda nifty on a gun so they make it illegal. Did you know a bayonette is illegal? When was the last time you saw a bank robber with a bayonette on their gun? Same thing with a collapsable stock. If it folds, it's illegal. If you are a gun collector, a rifle with a collapsable stock would be a pretty nice thing to have. Also, shotguns are illegal if they are too short. Take off the wooden stock and it's illegal. Take off a few inches on the barrel and it's illegal.
Does this mean these weapons do not exist in California? HELL NO! It just means that you are instantly a felon if you own one.
I knew this truck driver that moved here from out of state. He has a rather extensive gun collection and made sure to register all of his weapons (which I don't like) when he moved here. They were all legal at the time, but a couple years later, the laws were changed a bit and several of his guns were made illegal and taken away. That is what firearm registry is all about. It's the Democrats way of easily finding the guns to take away when they make them all illegal.
Also, that same guy always carrys a pistol with him when working. It's illegal, but it doesn't stop him. He used to not do it, but was robbed 4 or 5 times while doing deliveries in about 6 years. He's been carrying a gun in a holster completely visible for the past 10 years and hasn't been robbed once.
Anyways, give me 72 hour waiting periods and background checks. While you're at it, don't allow missile launchers. Anything else should be left the hell alone.
EDIT: by the way, Cobalt, in reference to your guys with guns in the 1800s: You'd better read up on your history a bit more and lay off the Western flicks. All those things you hear about in stories, the James gang, Billy the kid, etc, all existed in about a 30 year period in isolated parts of the US and it all existed because of the situation they were stuck in. As people moved out West, they grew dependant on railroads and railroad companies. Railroad companies took advantage of this by charging enormous amounts for train tickets. Farmers were dependant on the banks they owed money to. If the bank decided to call in their debt, they'd take away the farm. This resulted in a very, very upset and poor class of people. Some of these people took matters into their own hands and took to robbing the "evil" railroad companies and banks. Many of these people were hailed as heros because they went against the railroad companies and banks. Think about it. How many westerns have you seen where the robbers weren't robbing a railroad or a bank?
Edited by - Krusty on 08/27/2002 15:05:53 |
| Cobalt |
Posted - 08/26/2002 : 14:30:44
Actuly, I agree with people haveing guns, but no gun CONTROLL happens, we go back to the 1800s (This sounds corny, but... cowboys, robbers, etc with easy acess to guns).
Now there are criminal background checks, 72 hour waits for purchus, and the like. We need MORE, not less controll if we want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
And you're going to respond with "They will get guns anyways", well, its like carding for cigs, kids may get them anyway, but it will make it harder for them, and they may just give up on it.
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| gary3006 |
Posted - 08/26/2002 : 13:37:54
^^^^^^^^Yeah, What he said.
It's a war out there. Just like any other war innocent people get caught in the cross-fire.
Gary Thirty-aught-six |
| Krusty |
Posted - 08/26/2002 : 12:49:26
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If all people had guns, there would be alot more dead people. A crook is more likely to shoot a man holding a gun then doing what he is told.
ahh, yes, the one classic rebuttle. And now for my classic response:
If the criminals don't know who is carrying a gun, they will be less likely to commit the crime anyways.
As for the harsh punishments, criminals will be less likely to commit the crime if they actually fear the punishment. If the people don't have the moral values to resist commiting crimes, then we instill fear in them to prevent them from commiting the crimes.
Anyhoo, I just watched the copwatch thing now that I had time and I thought it was a pretty good idea. Police officers are human. On top of that, they are known for not being the most intelligent humans of the bunch at times. When you give people that kind of power, you need to watch them and keep them in check.
As for the race issue, I'm deeply apologetic to those of you that happen to belong to a race in which cops give you the evil eye when around you. I feel absolutely no remorse whatsoever for the minorities (and majorities) that are harassed because they are out walking around the street with their friends at 2 in the morning wearing stupid baggy ass clothes (and those stupid ass bandanas)and looking like you are the type of people to start trouble. There are reasons these people are singled out. How often do the police have to arrest a 30-year-old white dude in a suit? That's why they aren't harassed. How often do the police need to arrest punk teenagers for shoplifting or beating someone up? The reason minorities can be singled out is because they have easily recognizable features similar to the people currently populating our prisons. Sure, it's not fair for the law abiding minorities out there, but it happens. It happens to the law abiding white people too. Several of my friends were harassed and searched for over an hour because the cops saw them sitting in a parking lot at 11pm drinking gatorade, wearing exercise clothes, and having towels slung over their shoulders. They had just gotten out of 24 hour fitness and were chatting and cooling off.
It is this unfair harassment we have to watch out for. That is where cop watch is a good thing. But if you're out late at night, don't be surprised if you get pulled over or stopped on the sidewalk and questioned for a minute or two. It's two minutes out of your life that they take to ensure your safety.
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| Cobalt |
Posted - 08/26/2002 : 09:09:32
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I, for one, am begining to wish I lived in Texas. Bad criminals get what comes to them and don't live off our tax dollars. I started my life thinking conservatively and now I'm just begining to think I should be an extremist. I'm just too damned tired of the good people in the world having to worry because there is always a bad apple around them.
I say, we revert back to an eye for an eye. If a thief is caught, prison time is good, lopping off a finger is much better. If you see any guys missing fingers, watch your wallet. If a guy manages to miss an entire hand worth of fingers, go ahead and kill him. 5 strikes is more than enough.
oh, one more thing that makes me want to move to texas: no cheesy ass california laws designed to ultimately take away our right to bear arms. There would be a lot less crime if the law abiding citizens could have something to defend themselves with.
What if he stuck his hand under a lawn mower? :)
If all people had guns, there would be alot more dead people. A crook is more likely to shoot a man holding a gun then doing what he is told.
Anyway, I think Copwatch is a good idea, it keeps em on their toes, and it appears as though it teaches them our law-given rights.
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| Krusty |
Posted - 08/25/2002 : 21:59:07
I, for one, am begining to wish I lived in Texas. Bad criminals get what comes to them and don't live off our tax dollars. I started my life thinking conservatively and now I'm just begining to think I should be an extremist. I'm just too damned tired of the good people in the world having to worry because there is always a bad apple around them.
I say, we revert back to an eye for an eye. If a thief is caught, prison time is good, lopping off a finger is much better. If you see any guys missing fingers, watch your wallet. If a guy manages to miss an entire hand worth of fingers, go ahead and kill him. 5 strikes is more than enough.
oh, one more thing that makes me want to move to texas: no cheesy ass california laws designed to ultimately take away our right to bear arms. There would be a lot less crime if the law abiding citizens could have something to defend themselves with.
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| gary3006 |
Posted - 08/25/2002 : 12:26:25
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I'de rather see all the CEOs of enron put away
How 'boutEXECUTED 
I work for Reliant Energy. Ever since the Enron scandall I've lost nearly $45,000 in my 401. And we had nothing to do with it. Our building is right between Enron and Dynegy. Damn the luck. 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/24/national/main519712.shtml
Edited by - gary3006 on 08/25/2002 13:53:34 |
| PisnNapalm |
Posted - 08/25/2002 : 12:11:08
/me thinks Cobalt likes his herb.
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| Cobalt |
Posted - 08/25/2002 : 11:31:52
I'de rather see all the CEOs of enron put away then everyone who has been arested with posesion of weed/intent to sell.
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| gary3006 |
Posted - 08/25/2002 : 11:18:30
You're absolutely Pisn.
It's not a perfect world, never will be, and cops make mistakes just like any other person. A few bad apples dosn't spoil the whole bunch though.
My main problem with people whinning about Police Brutality is, the ones crying about it make up 14% of the country's population, and yet that small minority makes up 80% of the prison population. There's something wrong there. No wonder selective groups get singled out. And then, to top it all off, these crooks get put behind bars, lift weights, get educated only to be released a few years later. End result= stronger, smarter criminal, thanks to my tax dollars. Sure, some of them learn there lesson and become reformed. The majority do not.
The current system will never be perfect. Only harsh and strict penalties will make these criminals think twice.
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| PisnNapalm |
Posted - 08/25/2002 : 10:40:58
what happens if you're the one that is mistakenly executed on the spot for something ya didn't do? VGO!
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| gary3006 |
Posted - 08/25/2002 : 10:19:36
I've never had a problem with Cops. People shouldn't allow themselves to be put in a situation where a policeman would have to rough 'em up. As a matter of fact I also believe laws should be more strict. I'm totally in favor of on the spot executions. I'd rather my tax money pay for a bullet or two, rather than support the low-life that abducted, raped, and murdered a child.
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| Cobalt |
Posted - 08/24/2002 : 22:59:03
Oh dont make me bust out the raceist GOP links...
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| Cobalt |
Posted - 08/24/2002 : 22:58:02
Which also makes you wonder what was so important that they had to make 186 other codes before they thought up one for murder.
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| Jester |
Posted - 08/24/2002 : 22:34:27
odd that your post was number 187 which is the police code for murder.
F'n wussie liberals. Theres my discussion :) lmfao
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| PisnNapalm |
Posted - 08/24/2002 : 22:30:57
bah... too long. If ya can't cram it into a 30 second clip, then ya lose me. :oP
j/k Cobalt... I'll watch it in a bit..
Edited by - PisnNapalm on 08/24/2002 22:39:44 |
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