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Krusty
Incredibly Wordy Bastard
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 Posted - 11/14/2003 : 02:49:01
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As of today, there is yet another wireless signal that reaches my apartment. In my apartment, I now have our own wireless connection and 2 other wireless connections. Funny thing is that one of them actually has a stronger signal in certain parts of my apartment. When I'm in my room, I get a better signal when connecting to the neighbors wireless. Now, on the opposite side of the house, I also get a different signal. My whole house is covered in other peoples wireless.
Perhaps I should just get a wireless card for my desktop and stop paying for internet all together.
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Impact4ever
Wordy Bastard
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 08:06:35
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Man, thats a good idea. The only problem I see with that, eventually they might get the idea too start setting up some sort of protection like using WAP.
I really don't know to much about wireless connection. SO I'm wondering, the person who's transmitting internet wireless from home base and sharing that connection with others. Will he notice a slower bandwidth or is there any difference(like slow downs) sharing his bandwidth with others.
I was thinking about setting up a wireless point in the house and sharing that connection with neighbors. My ISP is saying that they increased the bandwidth to 3.5megs downloads and 1.5megs uploads. Haven't tested it yet, could be true.
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Slayer_Allen
Incredibly Wordy Bastard
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 09:03:58
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What does a wireless connection of that nature run a person in the course of a month, cash wise?
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UnderOath
Wordy Bastard
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 09:44:45
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I have a wireless network, I run 3 desktop pc's and one laptop from it, I dont see a difference.
I say do it.
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Him
Super Noobie! ;)
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 11:16:46
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It is always nice to have the power. Just recently I got off my lazy ass and decided to lockdown my wireless router. I changed the default SSID ID, enabled WEP at 128bit encryption, then turned on the MAC filter and there is now only one address in there, then I disabled the SSID Broadcast. Anyone who gets past all that deserves to share my internet access.
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Krusty
Incredibly Wordy Bastard
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 15:06:54
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If someoene does decide to encrypt their wireless, I can still crack it. There are utilities on the net that monitor wireless (encrypted) traffic and generate the password.
As for the people noticing a slowdown, they will only notice it if we are using a fair amount of bandwidth. Considering we currently have 9 computers using our home network, one of which is a web/email server, they will probably notice a slowdown.
I was also considering being really evil with the wireless as well. I believe one of the neighbors we don't like has the wireless network that reaches my room well. I could always start uploading tons of Metallica on kazaa and get them sued
I'm too nice for that though.
Impact, wtf ISP are you using man? 1.5Mbit upload is HUGE. A T1 connection, which runs you several hunderd $ per month has 1Mbit up and down (guaranteed). I'd take your service over a T1.
Slayer, a wireless connection doesn't run you anything in the course of a month. You purchase the hardware (say $30 for the router and $30 per wireless adapter) and you have a wireeless network. If you are subsrcibed to a high speed internet service, you can get internet via this wireless network. That just costs you the price of the internet.
Him, I've been thinking of locking down my wireless as well. Every once in a while, I check the logs on the router to see if anyone else has been connecting. Nobody has yet and the neighbors have had wireless for several months. I think my roommates and me are the only ones curious enough to go snooping around other peoples networks. Last night, I logged onto the other networks and checked their IPs and internet providers. The IPs are completely different from mine, but they still have the same provider. I have yet to see another computer on their network though. I also can't log onto their router as the default password has been changed.
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Slayer_Allen
Incredibly Wordy Bastard
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 16:11:17
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Ok, I understand a lot better now.
That's not what I initially envisioned.
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moutheater
Super Noobie! ;)
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 17:34:08
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Just know this- connecting to an "AP" that is not yours is illegal even if there open or encrypted. The reason I even bring this up is its one of my jobs to secure wireless networks and I have in the past helped hunt down people who have done what you’re thinking of or have done.
My two cents…
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moutheater
Super Noobie! ;)
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PisnNapalm
Moderator
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 17:53:57
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Well... right there is a good enough reason to not do it Krusty.
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Krusty
Incredibly Wordy Bastard
1158 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2003 : 17:55:00
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My laptop automatically connects to the strongest wireless signal when I turn it on. My wireless adapter (named Default) is in the living room so I generally get low signal in my room. The neighbors wireless adapter (named Kelsey) gives me very good to excellent reception in my bedroom.
So I wouldn't willfully be accessing their network if I were under the assumption that MY laptop would connect to MY wireless network, yes?
Then again, if I decided to be evil, I'd still be automatically connecting. I'd just also be making sure I am connected to the neighbors wireless.
Anyways, I think I could easily avoid getting in any sort of legal trouble if my laptop just happens to like connecting to someone elses network as long as I'm not doing anything with malicious intent. I'm pretty sure I'm safe surfing the forums.
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moutheater
Super Noobie! ;)
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Posted - 11/14/2003 : 18:10:41
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Windows wireless software be default will connect to the strongest signal at start-up so if it happens to be your neighbors your are breaking the law. Windows wireless software also has an option (connect to preferred networks only) which should be ON by default depending on the manufacture of hardware/software. Even if you don’t access the network you’re breaking the law by associating with the AP. Now the beacons that come off the AP that tell you its there are not illegal to receive. So to sum it all up- if you start your laptop up and it connects to an AP that you don’t have permission to use (even without your knowledge) you can be prosecuted by law. But the chances of the police knocking on your door are so small that its not even worth discussing.
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why should I even pay any more?
